Paihia Public Meeting 29 October 2003
The Park Lodge on Paihia Scenic Circle Motels, Seaview Road
5pm to 7pm
25 Attended
Commentary
· What degree of importance do legal roads have in this topic, given that they have caused problems?
- Paper roads are often historical, why can't the principle be used to resolve access problems?
- Would an ambulatory marginal strip be required around a wahi tapu site?
- What if the strip moved onto the site?
- Are there local exemptions?
· Along the Waitangi River there are titles with a notation of Old Land Claim - what does this mean?
· Can a council close or sell and unformed legal roads?
· It seems to be an assumption that additional access will occur and land will be taken, will compensation be paid?
- Property rights have fundamental value.
- Why shouldn't land be locked/access be restricted?
· There seems to be an impression that stopping people from fishing is a bad thing, yet Maori are doing the same thing, e.g. Mt Tarawera, Cape Brett.
- Does not have any problem with that, European owners seem to be penalised more.
· Free access is a worry, such as the Scottish example, it is difficult for farmers in Scotland to deal with.
· Why is DOC `mucking up' with walkways?
- Walkways are a good idea.
- Who would choose people for an agency?
- Need people with common sense.
- Should change OSH rules/liability.
· Where councils require esplanade reserves on subdivisions, they do not manage them, or even get access to them.
· Complimented on the report and on Brian Hayes' presentation.
- Recognise that management of esplanade reserves is an important issue.
- Access along rivers will become an issue in the Bay of Islands - de facto claim and use of riparian land (esplanade reserves).
- Agrees to the need for fair and reasonable access/code of conduct.
- Do we need a formal code or a `built-in' one?
- City dwellers might need a code.
· A code is a big issue, education is required so that people can respect property (Poerua Peninsula has been virtually shut off because of poor conduct).
- Most of the beaches here need vehicle access.
- Genuine walkers and trampers are not a problem.
- People ignore signs.
· Has observed a gradual closure of the Peninsula because of access problems such as damage and stock management.
· Would like to clarify access to the foreshore/unrestricted access to the beaches to at least mean high water mark and above if necessary.
- What rights exist between mean high water mark and mean high water spring and above?
· OSH is a big worry.
· Is it only walking access - does the project include dogs, vehicles etc?
- What is allowed on esplanade reserves?
Contact for Enquiries
Rural Affairs Coordinator
Sector Performance Policy
MAF Policy
Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry
PO Box 2526
Wellington
NEW ZEALAND
Phone: +64 4 894 0675
Fax: +64 4 4 894 0745
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