Auckland Public Meeting 09 October 2003
Barrycourt Best Western, 10-20 Gladstone Road, Parnell
7pm to 9pm
40 Attended
Commentary
· Will the public do what we want them to do?
- The proposal seems laudable.
- There are a lot of immigrants who do not respect values.
- Opposed to giving up property rights along the coast.
- Not up against people who are reasonable.
- Here to deal with this.
· Walkways: Support for the previous concept before DOC became involved.
- DOC does not administer the Walkways Act well.
· A code of conduct is vital for access.
- Some people will inevitably breach a code.
· What size watercourse will have a Queen's Chain on it?
· There are problems associated with stock and property theft.
- Cannot run a viable farm if there is some vague law.
- There are places where access is needed but not every property.
- Access should be specific to place.
- Acquire and compensate.
- Does not want a right to roam.
· The right to roam is not an issue in New Zealand.
- Game hunters do not expect access across private land to public land.
· Concerned that the overhead says that the Queen's Chain is a myth yet it has served us well.
- Grateful for the foresight demonstrated by Queen Victoria.
· There is a need to write the law for 50 years hence - stretch our thinking - what do we want in 50 years?
· Support the ethos of the Queen's Chain but could impose heavy costs on landowners.
- Costs should be borne by the people who benefit - i.e. the people of New Zealand.
- Concerned that the report does not include costs.
· There is a problem relating to the number of people wanting access, a particular problem in the Auckland area.
· Opposed to the sunset clause idea attached to the concept of deeming.
· Gamebird hunters do not have access to many lakes in the Waikato area.
Is the Government going to fix its house first?·
- The Government leases land in the central North Island to lodges that then give exclusive access.
· Is there thought given to having an Ombudsman to help improve access and sort out problems?
· It is a big mistake to hand paper roads to local authorities.
- Councils are reluctant to do anything about illegal fences/gates across unformed legal roads.
· This is a very good and well-timed report.
- Access is needed to fisheries.
- The speaker farmed next to an urban area and only had two problems.
- Look at sensible, reasonable access to water margins.
· Oppose landowners using access for commercial gain because the fishery is a public resource.
· Support any move that relieves landowners from responsibility for recreational visitors.
· Support gradual reservations.
- Support a national body to oversee access and help rectify mistakes.
· Support an extension to fill in the gaps where a Queen's Chain exists.
- Where the Queen's Chain never existed is a different story.
· Prefer to see `property rights' defined rather than `access rights' defined.
- Conduct is an important consideration.
· It is a pity that it was not made clear that the right to roam is off the agenda.
· Ongoing costs of access: fire hazards, biosecurity risks, and toilet waste.
· Federated Mountain Clubs of New Zealand is not asking for a right to roam.
· Loss of access by the actions of local authorities - this needs to stop.
- Could take away access provisions from local authorities and an access agency may help.
· How would access to land/riparian areas be defined and who would bear the cost?
· The right to roam is not open slather, even in England.
· Access to beaches has to be defined for responsible people.
· 4WD and jet boaters have different access requirements, but would not like to see restrictions occur in New Zealand as it can happen in parts of Europe.
Contact for Enquiries
Rural Affairs Coordinator
Sector Performance Policy
MAF Policy
Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry
PO Box 2526
Wellington
NEW ZEALAND
Phone: +64 4 894 0675
Fax: +64 4 4 894 0745
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