Taupo Public Meeting 23 September 2003

The Events Centre, AC Baths Avenue, Taupo

7pm to 9pm

10 Attended

Commentary

· It is not difficult for local authorities, which can overlay information on topographical maps using a digital cadastral database.

. An organisation is needed to provide accurate information.

. A driver is needed.

· Should people be blaming local government for the muddled up legislation on access?

. Councils are not always playing their part, there are not always reserves where they ought to be.

. Councils need more information to do their job.

· Can councils sell reserve land?

. Is the reason that they are not doing anything because they are putting the issue in the too-hard basket?

. This should not be difficult now with cadastral databases.

· There is a great concern that the right to roam would not suit New Zealand's situation.

· People are fortunate in Taupo that there is so much Crown land, making it easier to recreate.

. Taupo is a good model for other regions.

. Land has been surveyed to include public spaces and reserves.

· With Landcorp land, it does not seem that people have the right that they think to access land.

· A code of conduct would be very important to `sort this mess out'.

· How can some land be sold with riparian rights, e.g. Acacia Bay?

. Are riparian rights an anomaly?

. How could it be overcome without paying compensation?

.  Brian Hayes: There are more riparian rights in the North Island than in the South Island, as a result of land been sold directly from a Maori title to settlers.

Bob Cottrell: Access for Maori is different.

. Difficulty for Maori of access to the resources of their own land.

. The Group tried to reflect this in the report.

. The Group met with a variety of people to find a degree of commonality.

· What other activities, aside from walking, does the Group see happening on the land?

. If this issue is looking to the future, should mountain biking be included?

. Paper roads could be usefully retained for 4WD.

· Some fishing guides are bad in thinking that money provides access to their fishing resource, but this is not the view of all.

· Keen to see the issues resolved and see also what the solutions will be.

· This report, although excellent, has opened a can of worms.

. This issue needs to be pushed along politically.

. The dollar is ruling what is happening.

. The Queen's Chain approach needs to be applied to all waterways.

. Would like to see what the solution will be.

. What will happen to our submission when it reaches Wellington?

· A licence can provide great access, but if someone is going to charge $1500 and require a helicopter to access the land, this is not the answer.

· The United States is looking at buying forestry, and it has a poor track record, refusing access.

. There is a different culture and ethos.

. John Acland: Overseas buyers must accept the New Zealand culture.

· Access will become increasingly important as people feel the need for exercise and most of the population is in the cities.

. Land could therefore become a greater asset.

· Access needs to be easy, simple and non-intrusive.

.  Access is important, more so with the lack of exercise that people have today.

.  An Access Agency would deal with the facts to clarify the situation.

.  John Acland: The country should be seen to assist people.

· People need the facts, i.e. maps, to know what their rights are.

· Get on and do what is written in the report, there is a need to act.

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